Me: "I'm not interested in fwd performance cars"

"Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch" (bman76) 07/06/2017 at 00:38 • Filed to: None

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Also me: “Oh my god I want a 205 GTi track car!”

Or a Clio Williams:

Mmmm... French hot hatch goodness.

TheHondaBro > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/06/2017 at 00:44

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Future Bman76: “Hmm this Prelude seems pretty good”

deprecated account > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/06/2017 at 00:44

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Clio Williamses are so cool. Lane Motor Museum in Nashville has one and it’s super clean.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > TheHondaBro 07/06/2017 at 00:47

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The only Hondas I’ll own will have this badge on them:

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > deprecated account 07/06/2017 at 00:55

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I know, they’re handsome little cars with solid performance cred.

TheHondaBro > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/06/2017 at 00:56

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*puts that badge on a prelude*

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > TheHondaBro 07/06/2017 at 01:03

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I kinda like 4th gen VTECs, but I knew a guy in high school who broke his. It revved by itself at idle, which was hilarious.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/06/2017 at 01:05

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mmmm. infamous Honda IACV failure. Fun stuff

FSI - alcohol enthusiast with a car problem > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/06/2017 at 02:52

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Boy racers ruined many warm and hot hatches sadly. One minute of silence for all the lost GTis, XR4tis, GSIs, G40s and G60s, Williamses and others lost.

Tareim - V8 powered > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/06/2017 at 03:12

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So you wouldn’t have an s2000 or NSX?

duurtlang > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/06/2017 at 03:57

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No you don’t. You want one as a fun weekend car. These are so much fun to drive bone stock. I drove my ‘88 GTi a lot yesterday and shot a series of pictures for an ad. I have to let it go :(

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/06/2017 at 04:31

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You have to wonder if VTEC could be considered an emissions cheat device. It doesn’t kick in during normal driving or emissions testing, but only when thrashing the vehicle. A friend had one of the last Preludes and was complaining about the poor mileage and soot on the back of the car. He had a VTEC addiction and nearly every shift was done at redline.

Just like the S2000, which can’t outperform a Civic if shifted at 5,500 RPM, VTEC is the only thing that makes the crazy performance of that vehicle possibile, albeit not cleanly...

pip bip - choose Corrour > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch 07/06/2017 at 07:18

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GIB!

bhtooefr > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 07/06/2017 at 07:43

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If it was declared and approved, and I have to think it was (especially given how obvious it was (so getting away with not declaring it wasn’t happening), and the fact that it does only kick in when thrashing it (so it was likely to be approved)), then it’s merely an Auxiliary Emissions Control Device, not a defeat device.

Although, Honda did get caught disabling the misfire detection on some mid-1990s cars: https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2014-06/documents/defeat.pdf

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Tareim - V8 powered 07/06/2017 at 08:36

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Not an S2k fan, and NSXs were badged as Acuras here.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > duurtlang 07/06/2017 at 08:38

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I can agree with this.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > bhtooefr 07/06/2017 at 09:47

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“ Emissions control ” - funny.

Maybe ‘cheat’ wasn’t the right word as it wasn’t hidden, but merely exploiting loopholes in the rules. But everyone does it, or something similar, like VVT.

Tareim - V8 powered > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 07/06/2017 at 11:24

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still a Honda though

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Tareim - V8 powered 07/06/2017 at 12:39

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I will take my workaround thankyouverymuch.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > duurtlang 07/06/2017 at 12:51

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Looks super clean, I love those wheels. So much French style.

duurtlang > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 07/06/2017 at 13:21

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It was quite a modern design in 1983, when it became available. Mine’s utterly original, except for the radio. I posted the ad online today (it’s in Dutch).